| Posted by Simon Ritchie , Aug 20,2001,05:32 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by Willy , Aug 21,2001,19:08 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by South China Seas Dweller , Aug 21,2001,19:17 | MetroBlab |
it's a fact. got it on video live at the Merc.
| Posted by tattoojay , Aug 21,2001,15:30 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by martian manhunter ® , Aug 21,2001,02:38 | MetroBlab |
Oh, and a big goddamn "Yeehaw" for Superdrag or whatever...
Why is everyone so FUCKen ..or is it fucking... serious around here?
| Posted by jeffx ® , Aug 21,2001,02:29 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by Rupaul , Aug 20,2001,20:43 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by Foul Beast , Aug 20,2001,08:36 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by Fowl Breast , Aug 20,2001,20:44 | MetroBlab |
Dunno about individual posts, but here're some word counts:
"Superdrag" 2,294
"WUTK"/"New Rock 90" 1,535
"WDVX" 1,445
"fuck" 3,167
....how many does that make?
Three thousand, two hundred, and nine.
| Posted by Fowl Breast , Aug 21,2001,20:33 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 20,2001,09:49 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by LunaFreak ® , Aug 20,2001,16:37 | MetroBlab |
SuperDrag far surpasses anything the shit little town you live has put out in recent memory. The are excellent songwriters, and their stage presence is great. The are a high-energy act, and let me tell you, they were, and always have been, the real thing.
If you want to equate them with some Britney Spears teen band, then you'll have a lot of lying to do. Those boys were sitting in the slums of the Fort hitting bongs and writing songs for years before they ever recorded an album.
You just hate them because someone said "Hey, these guys are good, let's give them a deal" to them, instead of to you. Get over it. They've never had the big head, they're nice to people they meet, so what else do you want?
Get over it, you Judyfag-loving little cunny.
| Posted by sir-talks-to-bob-a-lot ® , Aug 20,2001,19:19 | MetroBlab |
IN ALL CAPS...
SUPERDRAG - DAMN GOOD, SOLID ROCK N ROLL BAND.
RUDE STREET PETERS - THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST BAND TO EVER COME OUTTA THE SLUMS OF MARYVILLE.
SMOKIN' DAVE AND THE PREMO DOPES - THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST BAND TO EVER COME OUTTA THE SLUMS OF FORT SANDERS.
EVIL TWIN - TWISTED SLEAZE DONE TO A PERFECT TURN. THE BITCH IN THE TIGHT LEATHER OUTFIT NEEDS TO GET A JOB THOUGH...
JUDYBATS - S.U.C.K.E.D. PERIOD.
IMMORTAL CHORUS - PLEASE STAY GONE.
All the rest of the local bands I remember are from ten years ago and therefore are NOT remembered by 99.9% of the local "scene" (i.e. college kids), so I won't even mention them except to say...
WH-WH KICKED TOTAL ASS AND SAGE FUCKIN' SUCKED!
MS
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 20,2001,16:49 | MetroBlab |
Anyway, in order to clear up any misconceptions you have, I decided to clear up your post point by point.
1. I liked most of them. All the Steed bands kick(ed) major ass as did Total Frustration.
2. Superdrag's members are not "excellent songwriters." They are far from fair songwriters. With time and practice, not to mention a damn rhyming dictionary they might get good enough to write a new Weigel's jingle.
3. I never equated them to Britney or any other teen band. I'm just saying this town is full of fucking cheerleaders for the subpar.
4. Maybe the reason their "material" isn't so strong is the claim you made about them "sitting in the slums of the fort smoking a bong." If they hadn't smoked so much of whatever it is that they smoked, and listened to the Beatles so much their originality might have bloomed.
5. "They've never had the big head." Well, junior, you must be new to this area or to knowing who this band is. Let's recap for you. They walked around town like they landed from fucking Chelsea for three tired years. John Davis himself has had many, many tantrums in public many like the "I'm a multi-million dollar concern" fit he threw at Pick And Grin because AMEX declined his Les Paul purchase, all because he was too wrapped up in his own myth to call and activate the damn thing.
6. Tom and Brandon are the only ones with any real sense. Don is the only one with any God given talent. John, well, John just needs someone to loan him a buck fifty so he can buy a damn comb.
| Posted by DS , Aug 22,2001,02:18 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 22,2001,03:05 | MetroBlab |
--modified at Wed, Aug 22, 2001, 03:05:56
| Posted by Simon Ritchie , Aug 22,2001,11:41 | MetroBlab |
To wit:
"The facts speak for themselves that Superdrag has not moved one inch from where they started."
What "facts" are these? Do you mean to tell me that in the past eight years, after releasing three acclaimed full-length albums, two EPs, tour after tour of the US, tours in the UK,Japan,etc., appearances on Conan O'Brien & 120 Minutes and blah blah blah blah blah, it's your honest opinion that these guys have made absolutely ZERO progress? You're full of shit. Where do you get off?
"...there were those rumors that John was going to dump (Don) after Elektra released the first album..."
I don't know where you heard that rumor, my guess would be on the short bus with other "challenged" people like yourself. What a joke.
"As I have stated many times before, I like Superdrag."
Seems like only yesterday you referred to them as being good for nothing except to line a bird cage. Make up your mind! Or better yet, save it for your support group. Maybe they can help you to come to terms with your Superdrag fetish.
"Superdrag needs someone to lend them some guidance. Someone to take their hand and point them in a new direction, one that will yield them some serious longevity."
Oh, really. I think that's what the folks at Elektra tried to do. And when Superdrag wouldn't go along with their bogus plans to achieve that "commercial success" you mentioned, they put out Vitamin C instead.
I've got news for you chief, in this day and age, being able to keep a band together and put out records for 7 or 8 years IS longevity.
"Why is is that just because somebody is from own (sic) little town we have to think with all of our heart and soul that they are the fucking total best? They aren't."
I don't think they're "the fucking total best." I never said I did. But I do think they deserve better than to be shat upon by the likes of you. I think you could give them at least a modicum of respect for what they've tried to do, rather than get on here and insult their mothers or whatever it is you generally do. We'll all sit up and take notice when "Scaramanga's Lonely Hearts Club Band" hits the shelves, but until then your scathing assessments of Superdrag or any other band don't really amount to jack-shit.
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 22,2001,12:31 | MetroBlab |
Give up. You lost. Sorry.
| Posted by John Davis , Aug 21,2001,16:15 | MetroBlab |
Have A Nice Day,
JD
| Posted by tattoojay , Aug 21,2001,16:22 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by LunaFreak ® , Aug 20,2001,20:41 | MetroBlab |
"1. I liked most of them. All the Steed bands kick(ed) major ass "
Hey, Todd Steeds a nice guy, no problems there, but i'm sorry if you think they 'all kicked ass". They most certainly ALL didn't.
"2. Superdrag's members are not "excellent songwriters."
Oh really? Well, now I see what you are. You are one of these wannabe but never-was people who sat around Hawkeyes listening to Tall Paul and Scott Miller, thinking that this was the 'real thing'.
It wasn't.
"3. I never equated them to Britney or any other teen band. "
And what was that comment "Put away the teenBeat" or whatever, about then? If you weren't equating them with 'any other teen band', then you're sure sending out the wrong signals. You need to practice up on your sarcasm.
"4. If they hadn't smoked so much of whatever it is that they smoked, and listened to the Beatles so much their originality might have bloomed.
They didn't sit around listening to the Beatles. I don't know where you get your info. They sat around listening to Mudhoney.
"5. "They've never had the big head." Well, junior, you must be new to this area or to knowing who this band is. Let's recap for you. "
I've known these guys for over ten years. Maybe I should be telling YOU about Superdrag. These guys were doing what they wanted to do and no one would write about them. They got signed because of perserverance and songwriting ability. And their solid stage show didn't hurt either.
Hmm....Maybe they just thought you were a dick (or bitch whatever).
I sure do.
Hold on a minute hoss, I mostly agree with you but you've stepped over the line there. Sure, Tall Paul is Monday night frat-boy-beer-fodder, but Scott Miller, as far as song writing ability goes, is right up there with John freaking Prine! He is ABSOLUTELY the best damn songwriter to EVER come from Knoxville, PERIOD. Sure Superdrag is great, and they're great guys too but the moment you start dissing Scott Miller is the moment you start sounding foolish.
MS
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 20,2001,20:47 | MetroBlab |
You seem to know an awful lot about them and you're quite defensive about their failure. Of course, what could be expected from someone that like fucking Luna. Jeezus, get your head out of your ass and go buy a fucking Mac Davis tape.
| Posted by Simon Ritchie , Aug 21,2001,16:05 | MetroBlab |
Back up just a minute. You're always blathering on about SoundScan, why don't you try typing in Superdrag and see what you get. Granted, they never outsold Michael Jackson's "Thriller" or anything, but they have sold some records. They continue to sell records. Needless to say, they've sold more records than you.
B) can't play their instruments
Bullshit. Name an instrument, and I'll bet you John Davis can play it better than you. The guy's been playing music since he was five years old. As far as Don & Sam are concerned, they can both play the hell out of their respective instruments, every night of the week, and then drink your ass under the table.
C) can't get a record contract
Why in the hell would they want another record contract? To impress you? They're doing just fine where they're at, and they're doing things the way they want to.
D) can't seem to stop ripping off Weezer, The Beatles and even Ryan Downe.
I've never understood this one. What makes you think they rip off Weezer? Just because some dipshit at some Heavy Metal station here in town put it in an ad one time? I'll tell you one thing for sure, "Dying Stars" kicks the shit out of the latest offering from Weezer, hands down. I'll give you The Beatles thing, but they don't rip off the Beatles any worse than The Beatles ripped of Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and The Everly Brothers. And who the hell is Ryan Downe?
| Posted by Now You Have Gone Too Far , Aug 21,2001,17:11 | MetroBlab |
However, reading "Dying Stars kicks the shit out of the latest offering from Weezer" has impelled me to post. Granted I don't have Dying Stars, or any of Superdrag's other albums for that matter, but I have seen them play several live show and from what I've seen there is no way that their new album could be anywhere as good as Weezer's.
For starters, every song on Weezer's album sounds unique and different which is totally unlike anything I've ever heard from Superdrag. 15 minutes into an SD show and it is damn near impossible to tell if they ever finished up their first song or not.
For the record though, Superdrag sounds nothing like Weezer in my opinion. They both kind of came about into the same little niche of fans. But comparing the two is like comparing Blondie and the Ramones. Or even better, the Shirts and Blondie because much like Superdrag nothing ever really became of the Shirts.
| Posted by Simon Ritchie , Aug 21,2001,18:49 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by Now You Have Gone Too Far , Aug 22,2001,12:08 | MetroBlab |
Listen, Superdrag is a very good band, but no they are not great by any means. Anyone who would argue differently is obviously either a good friend of the bands, or are trying to suck up to them because they were hip several years ago.
I have been to a handful of Superdrag shows and stayed for their entire set and everytime I have always been much more impressed with the opening band. Maybe I should go give them another chance next time I see they're playing, but why should I if all their other shows sucked?
| Posted by Lydon , Aug 21,2001,16:59 | MetroBlab |
1. According to SoundScan the catalog total for them is under 150k, many of which were sent out for promotion. Actual scanned (ie:bought) numbers are lower.
2. Yeah, I stand by that statement. Maybe all that time they didn't spend at Berklee would help them against someone who did.
3. A recording contract on a major label is the point, isn't it? Yes. It is.
4. Blah, blah, blah. If you don't know who Ryan Downe is then come back when you do. But, speaking of Weezer, they have had over thirty pages in RS over the past three years. Beatles ripped off Little Richard? No shit.
5. I like Superdrag. Always have, always will. The simple fact of the matter is that they are not goddamn Led Zepplin nor are they Bowie. Why is it that we must be cheerleader and not let them grow into the roles they need to fill in order to become true icons? Think about that junior. Think about that.
You know what's funny is that ten or twelve years ago I heard people say they were ripping off Husker Du. Or was that 30 Amp Fuse, yeah, I guess that was 30 Amp Fuse that was ripping off Husker Du back then.
Well anyway, all that kinda talk is just silly. Ya gotta sound like somebody because it's all been done already. You come up with a rock band that doesn't sound like ANY other band at all and I'll kiss your ass...
MS
| Posted by seehimpee , Aug 21,2001,00:24 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by jimpowas , Aug 21,2001,11:57 | MetroBlab |
"Success" is relative to what you're after. It's like money. If I came into ten thousand dollars, I would consider myself to be rich (at least for the moment). To someone else, it would be nothing.
Why doesn't everyone get over their jealousy of Superdrag. Do I like them? No. But, hats off to `em. They're doing what they want to do and getting paid for it. Myra, how about you? You must have some nice cozy office job somewhere?! Cool. I'll bet you consider that to be "success". I know that I would be happier working for someone else than to be playing rock and roll all over the world. Have a nice life.
I love that song...kinda cute and catchy...in an 80's kind of way...
| Posted by tattoojay , Aug 21,2001,14:04 | MetroBlab |
poor old johnny ray
sounded sad upon the radio
he moved a million hearts in mono
our mothers cried and sang along and who'd blame them
now you're grown, so grown, now I must say more than ever
go toora loora toora loo rye aye
and we can sing jsut like our fathers
come on eileen, well I swear
at this moment, you mean everything
with you in that dress my thoughts I confess
verge on dirty
ah come on eileen
these people round here wear beaten down eyes
sunk in smoke dried faces
they're so resigned to what their fate is
but not us, no not us
we are far too young and clever
eileen I'll sing this tune forever
come on eileen well i swear
ah come on, let's take off everything
that pretty red dress eileen
ah come on eileen.
| Posted by Myra ® , Aug 21,2001,12:21 | MetroBlab |
Actually, I have a high pressure office job that's putting me through school and allowing me to finish my degrees free of charge. And yes, for the time being that is a success. I live on my own and support myself without any outside financial help from my family or friends. I manage to work 40 hours at my not so cushy office job, go to school part-time, dance professionally with a ballet company 18 hours per week and maintain time for my friends and family. And yes, I consider that to be a success. Eventually, I'll be making close to (if not exactly) a 6 figure salary and helping people in the process, have no student loans and be all the happier in my life knowing that I pursued my goals and after much sweat, stress, and plain old hard work, I will have achieved them. And do you know what? That all adds up to longevity. The same concept I was discussing before. All Superdrag and those like them want to do is say they were great, and they want others to say it too. That doesn't add up to much, monetarily or otherwise. I have no doubt they practice a lot, but like Kenny Rogers said, you gotta know when to fold 'em. If they haven't made it yet, then perhaps they need to pursue a different line. Music is a fickle business. All of the arts add up to a very fickle business because most people have the collective attention span of a gnat. I may not be famous, but my work is quality and I care deeply for all the people in my life. That's enough for me and I don't need to have my ego stroked regularly on a message board or anywhere else.
| Posted by Myra ® , Aug 21,2001,08:50 | MetroBlab |
Now children, can we move on? The Drag isn't worth all this. . .really now. . . .
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 21,2001,08:44 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by LunaFreak ® , Aug 21,2001,13:34 | MetroBlab |
That must be what you say everytimne you have nothing left to say.
BTW, who is Luna? Is that a band? If so, it has nothing to do with my name.
p.s. I think you've been sufficiently smacked. Have a nice day.
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 21,2001,15:05 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by LunaFreak ® , Aug 21,2001,15:51 | MetroBlab |
"...just so you can impress chicks at a bar that you might have spoken to one of the members at some point in your pathetic little life..."
Heheh. It sounds to me like maybe YOU just met them once in your life, and they wouldn't let you suck them off. Trust me, I've never mentioned knowing SDrag as a way to pick up a chick, I know much more famous musicians.
BTW, my 'pathetic little life' has included two albums, endless tours in America and Europe, and huge festivals.
What, exactly, are your credentials?
That's what I thought. LOL!
SMACK
| Posted by tattoojay , Aug 21,2001,15:59 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by LunaFreak ® , Aug 21,2001,15:54 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 21,2001,16:50 | MetroBlab |
So, what band were you in? Show me something to support your claims.
Clearly you weren't that big, if you were you surely wouldn't have all this time to dick around on the 'blab talking about a band whose real fame didn't strectch past 21st Street.
Heh! Did I just hear a wall shatter in a glass house somewhere?
Ian "but I don't need a life" Blackburn
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 21,2001,18:58 | MetroBlab |
For the record, my success is the sole reason I can do this. I wasn't a fucking rock star and if I was I'm sure I would be too fucking stoned or waiting in line to get a penicillin shot or something.
Club, not pin. Pins are what you throw bowling balls at.
| Posted by Miss Cleo , Aug 22,2001,13:00 | MetroBlab |
| Posted by plum ® , Aug 20,2001,17:17 | MetroBlab |
Just Playin
You guys know what?....I don't think I even know who Superdrag is...I'm sure they are much better than I am at singing and playing instruments though. I like to enjoy the local Jazz and Bluegrass bands the most. I don't see many other local groups.