This is America
Re: Fort Sanders -- Gingles
| Posted by Joe Novotny , Aug 14,2001,10:21 |
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Old buildings being torn down? Well, I should hope so with their horribly antiquated electricity, plumbing and complete lack of insulation. Do you have some sort of sentimental attachment to these old places? Did your grandmother hang laundry washed in lye soap out the back near the blossoming cherry trees? Did you play croquet on the freshly cut grass in the side yard and sip lemonade while rocking in the glider on the porch with Grandpa, smelling brown with Old Spice and tobacco, hugging you close and stealing your nose? And you'd lie on freshly starched sheets and watch out the second floor bedroom window as the crimson cardinal brought dragonflies to the open-mouthed chicks in the nest, cobbled together with sticks, bits of twine and old newspaper clippings of the war. And the late summer thunder would rattle the dusty jars of pickles and preserves and wine tucked away in the musty cellar.
I miss grandaddy...
Re: This is America -- Joe Novotny
My childhood was all that you wrote. And I aint never had sex like then since old grandaddy died.
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Re: This is America -- Joe Novotny
| Posted by the idiot , Aug 14,2001,10:51 |
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Well, I should hope so with their horribly antiquated electricity, plumbing and complete lack of insulation.It's even more a shame that the owner let the property go to hell, as he idiotically speculated he could make a quick buck by holding onto property he had no intention of maintaining, waiting for the day when some rich developer would take them off his hands. Gee, remember when people had pride in their property? That dirt lot looks so much better than those sentimental old buildings he let go to hell. Sad thing is, I bet you that dirt lot looks better than anything that will be built on the property.
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Re: This is America -- Joe Novotny
| Posted by Gingles , Aug 14,2001,10:28 |
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OMG, yeah and that's why we pay alot of money to fly to Europe to see how beautiful it is, unlike this stripmall hell we call America.
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Re: This is America -- Gingles
| Posted by Joe Novotny , Aug 14,2001,10:48 |
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Certainly, it would be nice to bulldoze the strip malls and replace them with verdant parks. But a lot people need those little shops to work and make a living. Curiously enough, a lot of people fly to Europe to see the grand palaces, castles and cathedrals that were the massive public works programs of their day, built on the backs of the poor with their labor, tithe and tax. Like visiting the US to see our Interstate highways. Few journey away from their tour routes and into the backwoods where native Europeans give our local hillbillies a run for their money with centuries old, decaying plumbing, the stench of live animals and burning garbage. There are plenty of old buildings around, and will remain around as long as you live and care. Once you're gone, however, they'll be bulldozed and replaced with whatever people need to survive, then those with your elitist nostalgia will likely fight for the preservation of those delightful old fashioned strip malls with their quaint little donut, nail and transmission shops.
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Re: This is America -- Joe Novotny
| Posted by Bravo , Aug 14,2001,15:54 |
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Well said.
my manifesto
Re: This is America -- Gingles
| Posted by johnnybroad ® , Aug 14,2001,10:46 |
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That's because our young culture is built upon the automobile. Our towns and cities are based on cars. Our whole system of commerce is built around cars and their maintenance. In Europe, the automobile came upon the scene after their towns and cities were already built. It's inconvenient to travel by car when everything is within walking distance and the streets are tiny. But here, you have to drive 10 miles and park your car in a 5 acre parking lot to go to Walmart for your groceries, clothes, prescriptions, videos, everything. You can't walk or ride a bike to Walmart. It'd be suicidal. So we get fat, unhealthy, lazy, greedy. And we tear down anything that is not easy to get into, drive through or doesn't have an elevator, because that's not as profitable. Fat lazy Americans won't rent an apartment that requires them to walk more than five feet from their car or up stairs. Humans are the most capable animals on the planet. And yet we do so little of what we're able. It's killing us as a species.
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Re: my manifesto -- johnnybroad
| Posted by Joe Novotny , Aug 14,2001,10:50 |
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> It's killing us as a species.Hardly.
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Re: my manifesto -- Joe Novotny
| Posted by johnnybroad ® , Aug 14,2001,10:52 |
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Maybe I should rephrase that. It's changing us as a species. And in my opinion, for the worse. JB
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Re: my manifesto -- johnnybroad
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 14,2001,13:51 |
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The Fort needs to be cleaned up. There is no avoiding it. Things change and by god so do we. There are some really historical structures that need to stand but there are also (by a great majority) some hideous structures that need to come tumbling down. We have for too long allowed the "slum lord" set of this area to come in and cheaply buy up blocks of houses and apartment buildings. This needs to stop. If things are going to change we all need to stand up, organize and take it back. Take it back by whatever means needed. We have to. If we don't non-residents will take it over for their own profit margins and that is just fucking sick.
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Re: my manifesto -- Scaramanga
| Posted by Gene Harrogate ® , Aug 14,2001,14:07 |
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We have for too long allowed the "slum lord" set of this area to come in and cheaply buy up blocks of houses and apartment buildings.The fault can be shared both by the slum lords and by a city that failed to enforce existing code regulations to the point of allowing these buildings to reach this state. If we don't non-residents will take it over for their own profit margins and that is just fucking sick. Does Scaramanga know you're using his name? ~Gene Harrogate
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Re: Don't forget the City -- Gene Harrogate
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 14,2001,15:26 |
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There is only so much that the City can do to enforce the codes of a certain area. The problem is not the enforcement, but rather the actions that cause enforcement. Granted there are some nice structures in the area, there are also some eyesores that need to be torn down, post haste. Take for example all the 50's brick apartment buildings littering the area, those need to come down and the slum lords that own/control them should be locked away for life. I say we start this charge and shame all those capitolistic cock suckers!
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Re: Don't forget the City -- Gene Harrogate
| Posted by Oscar Wilde , Aug 14,2001,15:26 |
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I say we all pitch in to buy and fix them up and then move the homeless into them, that would solve everyones problems.......hee hee
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Re: Don't forget the City -- Oscar Wilde
| Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 14,2001,15:30 |
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I would rather buy up all the empty shit holes on Market Square, throw up some 15ft "cyclone" fencing and turn it into a "homeless artist colony." I've been pushing this idea for well over five years. Charge all the goddamn "hipsters" and "yuppies"(they are the same these days!)admission to come in and feel like they were doing something to support the "displaced."
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Re: Don't forget the City -- Scaramanga
| Posted by Oscar Wilde , Aug 14,2001,16:04 |
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Or maybe you can fit them all in that Porsche you talked about, now who's the yuppie?
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Re: Don't forget the City -- Scaramanga
| Posted by Oscar Wilde , Aug 14,2001,16:01 |
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whats wrong with cuba? there's plenty of roon there and it's warm all year around.
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