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Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 12,2001,14:01   MetroBlab

First, I would like to say that Jess did a fine job on Wednesday. He was seen today. Although I feel that he needs a haircut, he did fine. Also, I would like to have everyone know from this point until Jess gets his hair cut, we should all just call him Alfalfa. No, that doesn't mean he should stroll around Krutch Park "singing," I'm the barber of seeeeeveeeeeaaal. Darla ain't comin. Butch might. HEY! While on the subject of Krutch Park, what a wonderful place to display the Nine Visions One County banners! In an old store front that will see only roaches and maggots from this point on. I've spent an assload of time in the former CBD and I can tell you one thing, a whole lot of people are going to lose their asses with all the paint they are buying to purty that area up. Here's a small tip: You can paint it any color you want, it's still going to be empty space. Think about it. Until there are major chains and major chain retail, and hell, a few category killers coming in it ain't gonna change. We can run a million "mom & pop" places but ain't a one of 'em gonna live. HEY! Let's build some condos! Fuck that! There are too many condos downtown and until there is some form of shopping there ain't nobody gonna go. Hell, Lee's apt. is on the block for 180k. That's INSANE. Also, can I still find David Chambers on Laurel? I wanna get him to run for Mayor on the Scary Party ticket.

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Posted by sir-talks-to-bob-a-lot ® , Aug 12,2001,22:34   MetroBlab

>Also, can I still find David Chambers on Laurel? I wanna get him to run for Mayor on the Scary Party ticket.<

hey, i hung out with that dude just the other day. next time i see him i`ll tell him you`re lookin for him. he`d be all for it. a man can buy a lot of boones farm strawberry on a mayors` salary.


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Posted by Belle ® , Aug 12,2001,18:28   MetroBlab

Scary ticket? I want to hear more.

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Posted by Ian ® , Aug 12,2001,17:47   MetroBlab

HEY! Let's build some condos! Fuck that! There are too many condos downtown

[insert standard Ian monologue on downtown residential space]

Here's some fresh fodder for the Scarester.


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Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 12,2001,19:53   MetroBlab

Ian, my lovely juggling web-monkey-donkey shaver. I am all for downtown becoming something more than it is. The only down side to making anything happen down there would mean demolition of roughly seventy percent of the buildings so we could build new ones that could house the retail needed to sustain any sort of habitation.

600 Hill is one of the goddanm dumbest things thrown on the board in decades.

I almost didn't recognize Mike Ragsdale. I didn't see George anywhere pulling his string.


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Posted by ilyich , Aug 12,2001,20:52   MetroBlab

600 Hill is one of the goddanm dumbest things thrown on the board in decades.

I gotta say, I think I'm with Scary here on this one.

And jesus, that is hands down the suckiest website I've seen in a looooong time.

Ilyich


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Posted by Ian ® , Aug 12,2001,21:33   MetroBlab

making anything happen down there would mean demolition of roughly seventy percent of the buildings so we could build new ones that could house the retail needed to sustain any sort of habitation.

Now, I'm not an urban planner or nuthin', but neither are you, so I'm guessing this notion is a result of your exhaustive research on the mattter. Kindly point me towards one o' them studies that says "major chain retail" drives residential in urban downtowns instead of the other way around, hey? For all I know, there might be something behind the idea, but I'd like to see it.

600 Hill is one of the goddanm dumbest things thrown on the board in decades.
I gotta say, I think I'm with Scary here on this one.

Yup. Either way, I'm boned if they actually build that thing. Its west side'll be, like, twenty feet from three-fourths of my windows, and my river view gets turned into a view of a parking garage, in which I'll be paying to park, since the building'll obliterate the River House lot.

Lower my property values, will they? I'll show them what lowering property values is all about. I'll start eating breakfast naked, right across from some attorney's conference room. They'll be sorry.


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Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 12,2001,22:38   MetroBlab

You're right Ian, neither of us are Urban Planners, MPS's as it is. But, but guess which one of us has one on the 'ol payroll? Give up? Ok, here's a hint. I do. Yep. Got me one so I can better plan for the future.

As Victor Gruhen once said of Knoxville, "Either with or without their Market Square the CBD will be useless in fourty years" He said that in 1954.

Now my own quote. "Knoxville is a lump of suburbs in search of a city."

Also, we are not really a city nor metropolitan area. We are a mega-county. Don't forget that, it will be on the test next week.


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Posted by Gene Harrogate ® , Aug 13,2001,09:44   MetroBlab

Have you followed the WUTK lead and moved to an automated rotation? Would you mind posting a schedule of upcoming disconnected rants so that I can plan for them?

Could you replay some of that material about how oil prices would fall and the economy would soar under George W. Bush. I feel nostalic.

~Gene Harrogate


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Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 13,2001,10:06   MetroBlab

Uh.... Gene.....Uh.... oil prices are down......

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Posted by panda pooper , Aug 12,2001,14:44   MetroBlab

What Knoxville really needs is another geometric shape downtown.
Dallas has a pyramid and a big ball. Memphis has a pyramid. Why can't WE have a big pyramid?!? WHY WHY WHY!?!


Not a Pyramid, Perhaps

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Posted by Tutmoses IV , Aug 14,2001,12:20   MetroBlab

It makes sense in Memphis, home of Elvis and the ancient Egyptians. (Talking Heads got that wrong in "Life During Wartime.")

Downtown Knoxville needs a decent sized grocery store with easy parking or within walking distance of most of downtown. Then provide some tax breaks from some developers to create some affordable housing in those vacant buildings. Then the place will morph into a decent little sub-community of itself, and once you have more people living there, other shops and amusement venues will open of their own accord.

Grocery store is the lynchpin.


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Posted by Ian ® , Aug 14,2001,13:15   MetroBlab

Downtown Knoxville needs a decent sized grocery store with easy parking or within walking distance of most of downtown. Then provide some tax breaks from some developers to create some affordable housing in those vacant buildings. Then the place will morph into a decent little sub-community of itself, and once you have more people living there, other shops and amusement venues will open of their own accord.

What he said.

Grocery store is the lynchpin.

The Co-Op's thinking about it. Woo hoo!


Not a Pyramid, Perhaps

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Posted by Scaramanga ® , Aug 14,2001,13:23   MetroBlab

Yes, the key is a grocery store. Remember when White Stores/BiLo was on Gay Street? Yep, they left because lack of residents.

If there is going to be "a decent grocery store with good parking and (proximity to other areas)" someone will be dozing a building or two down. Yep.


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Posted by Tutmoses IV , Aug 14,2001,15:09   MetroBlab

I have no problem with bulldozing a few old buildings to create some ample parking for a bright, shiny new Bi-Lo. Better that then have those buildings burn, one by one, killing off a few people at a time.

Not a Pyramid, Perhaps

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Posted by Ian ® , Aug 14,2001,15:07   MetroBlab

If there is going to be "a decent grocery store with good parking and (proximity to other areas)" someone will be dozing a building or two down.

Not necessarily. The Co-Op's got, what, five parking spaces where they are now? If they can get by with that on Broadway, they ought to do okay downtown.

Better parking would be a bonus, of course.


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Posted by Belle ® , Aug 13,2001,10:59   MetroBlab

I wish we could name streets after what they used to be. Not like Phil Fulmer Memorial Highway, but instead, Granpa Bailey's Corn Field. Or something like that. Just seems better.

I like the shape idea too. But what about a star shaped planetarium? We could also make buildings that look like the industry they promote. Sea-Ray could be a big boat, etc. Whirlpool could look like a big washer, (well, it already kinda does). Okay. Sleep deprivation is not good. But at least I am creative. :)

Belle