Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
| Posted by WTG , Aug 02,2001,19:38 | MetroBlab |
>Aleister Crowley.
>What do you know about this man?
Crowley gossip: Two guys, one girl, & they were all happy with it apparently.
I always thought that was why he included 3 magicians in the Thoth tarot deck.
They were all bitches about symbolism.
Crowley
Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
| Posted by plum ® , Aug 02,2001,15:26 | MetroBlab |
click here
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Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
| Posted by Gene Harrogate ® , Aug 02,2001,13:22 | MetroBlab |
USELESS TRIVIA: He also graced the cover of the self-titled 1971 release "Led Zepplin." Yup. That's him doing in a photo patterned after the Tarot's 10 of wands.
~Gene Harrogate
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Re: Crowley -- Gene Harrogate
| Posted by plum ® , Aug 02,2001,14:20 | MetroBlab |
which ZEP album is that? can't seem to find it. not many photos on ZEP albums. mostly paintings. please explain to me, Gene. which photo? what's he look like?
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Re: Crowley -- plum
| Posted by Gene Harrogate ® , Aug 02,2001,14:48 | MetroBlab |
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Re: Crowley -- Gene Harrogate
| Posted by plum ® , Aug 02,2001,15:20 | MetroBlab |
and who told you this was crowley? a '71 photo of a man who died in 1947. that still looks like a painting to me.
no trashing or flaming gene. i'm just a huge ZEP fan and want to know more.
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Re: Crowley -- plum
| Posted by Gene Harrogate ® , Aug 02,2001,16:28 | MetroBlab |
and who told you this was crowley?
That's a good question. And it may be one of the many less-than-accurate legends that surround both Crowley and Page. It's been years since I heard it mentioned. Of course it's fairly well known that Page owns one of Crowley's homes (on Loch Ness). Less known is that the cover of the early pressings of the third album bore a hand-inscription from Page of Crowley's philosophy: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."
Perhaps I should have verified that little nugget before tossing it out. I certainly won't swear to it.
~Gene Harrogate
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Re: Crowley -- Gene Harrogate
| Posted by plum ® , Aug 02,2001,18:07 | MetroBlab |
spoken like a true gentleman
knew about the quote on III. know a lot of useless ZEP trivia. had never heard that one. not saying it is true or un-true. just wanted to know.
~ PLUM
--modified at Thu, Aug 02, 2001, 18:10:05
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Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
| Posted by tattoojay , Aug 02,2001,08:37 | MetroBlab |
i have been told a few times that i look a bit like him.
is this good? bad? otherwise?
i really dont care :)
jay
Crowley - nevermind
Re: Crowley -- tattoojay
| Posted by tattoojay , Aug 02,2001,14:00 | MetroBlab |
nevermind sorry had him confused for a min. it was before coffee, i was thinking of anton levay - sorry
jay
A bit...
Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
| Posted by Celestial Dung ® , Jul 31,2001,23:26 | MetroBlab |
He really wasn't a bad poet in my opinion. Liked his Layla poem. Charasmatic. Intriguing. Did too much coke unfortunately.
Don't think he was a con artist as he really believed in what he was doing.
Honestly one of the more interesting people from the first half of the twentieth century.
My guess he was a huge influence on Le Vay.
Crowley
Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
"Aleister Crowley.
What do you know about this man?"
Two words. Con artist.
MS
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Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
| Posted by DB ® , Jul 31,2001,14:25 | MetroBlab |
crowleymass unveiled-
okay boys and girls, let's go
alright
another wretched morning
a wretched october day
no sound of angels in the trees
christmas is far away
yeah, listen, what's this?
the televoice starts whipping round
the vision comes today
and this is what the voice declaims
it's to megatherion's birthday!
don't give us no sass or we'll kick your ass
cause we're the heralds of crowleymass!
well you can take your three wise kings, your manger sheep, and hey!
and i'm gonna tell you why, too
cause the thelema-boys are taking over with the tidings of the beast's birthday
don't give us no sass or we'll kick your ass
cause we're the heralds of crowleymass!
crowleymass, crowleymass
see the little children at crowleymass
their faces full of awe
and they don't get no shitty dolls and trains and stuff like that
no, they just get the book of the law
don't give us no sass or we'll kick your ass
cause we're the heralds of crowleymass!
well you can take your reincarnation, transsubstantiation and your papal kiss
cause i'm with a beast in beastly bliss
and all i want is copulation!
oh darling!
and there ain't no grace, there ain't no guilt
cause this is the law, do what thou wilt
the name is crowley, it rhymes with holy
it isn't crowley, that rhymes with fouly, eeewww
well you can take your reincarnation, transubstantiation and your papal kiss
cause i'm with a beast in beastly bliss
and all i want is good old-fashioned copulation!
Crowley
Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
Lots. Email me.
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Re: Crowley -- Rev. Jack
| Posted by flogpen-hellcat , Jul 31,2001,14:53 | MetroBlab |
still waiting...
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Re: Crowley -- Rev. Jack
| Posted by flogpen-hellcat , Jul 31,2001,13:05 | MetroBlab |
okay
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Re: Crowley -- flogpen-hellcat
| Posted by The Observer , Jul 31,2001,10:42 | MetroBlab |
Crowley was a complete fucking idiot. Despite the cult of personality he enjoys today among gullible high-schoolers and undergraduates, he wasn't much of a scholar. His "magical" prowess can be demonstrated by one story: he once tried to put a spell on William Butler Yeats. He showed up at Yeats' flat in all his bogus magical paraphernalia, his voice resonant with Sumerian-ripoff mumbojumbo -- until he was chased away by the landlady, wielding a broom.
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Re: Crowley -- The Observer
| Posted by J. Lieber , Jul 31,2001,13:41 | MetroBlab |
Crowley was just a lunatic. It is, however, worth noting that Yeats was initiated in an order that practiced magic, engaged in fancy rituals (complete with swanky robes and ornate chalices), and all that other hocus pocus. But I think his order was strictly for the high brows: you had to be dead familiar with all the classical Greek and Roman allusions to get through a sabbat. So even pagans can be snobs.
I think it was called Order of the Golden Dawn. Sort of like Witchy Bloomsbury.
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Re: Crowley -- J. Lieber
"I think it was called Order of the Golden Dawn. Sort of like Witchy Bloomsbury"
The Golden Dawn is, I believe, still a respected "denomination" or whatever of Wicca, which a lot of people will tell you is a legitimate religion.
MS
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Re: Crowley -- J. Lieber
| Posted by Gandalf , Jul 31,2001,15:41 | MetroBlab |
Funny that back in the Twenties, when people were flying the Atlantic, pondering Relativity, and learning the nature of the electron all these bozos were wasting their time with a bunch of magical crap. Liberal Arts majors all, no doubt.
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Re: Crowley -- Gandalf
| Posted by jessefox , Jul 31,2001,17:31 | MetroBlab |
Yeah, but remember that Lindbergh was an apologist for Hitler, and some of those people messing around with electrons were doing it on the Nazis' or Stalin's dime. And here in Tennessee, it wasn't the Liberal Arts majors who banned the teaching of evolution. Yeats might have been a goofball in private life, but he was a fine poet and generally not much of a threat to humanity.
jfm
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Re: Crowley -- jessefox
| Posted by Gandalf , Jul 31,2001,18:47 | MetroBlab |
Funny you should say that. Although somehow science and Nazism have become associated in the popular mind, actually (as a brilliant German documentary from the '80s pointed out) all the senior Nazis were failed artists. This is no surprise: artists have complete control of the worlds they create, which leads them to totalitarian impulses. Scientists and engineers, on the other hand, have to deal with the real world, which stubbornly refuses to be what they wish.
Not surprisingly, most of the totalitarian schemes to remake humanity in favor of someone's esthetic vision have come from artists, not scientists. Unfortunately, scientists don't write the history and commentator, which the liberal arts types have done so as to exonerate themselves.
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Re: Crowley -- Gandalf
| Posted by the endangered coconut monkey , Jul 31,2001,23:46 | MetroBlab |
>all the senior Nazis were failed artists. This is no surprise: artists >have complete control of the worlds they create, which leads them to >totalitarian impulses.
Wow..I worked for an artist like that. It's funny. She chewed through 5 or 6 graphic artists before me & the company can't seem to figure out what the hell the problem is with keeping people to work there. Of course, she has seniority so the company will believe her over any new employee.
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Re: Crowley -- Gandalf
| Posted by jessefox , Jul 31,2001,20:57 | MetroBlab |
True. (And don't forget Heidegger�there were plenty of intellectuals who sieg heiled.) But I think this dividing of people into either/or (left-brain or right-brain, artists or scientists) is artificial. Einstein was a creative, intellectual scientist. So was Benjamin Franklin. The key word in your phrase "failed artists" is more likely "failed" than "artists."
jfm
Picasso was never called an asshole
Re: Crowley -- Gandalf
| Posted by J. Lieber , Jul 31,2001,20:13 |
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Fool! You are powerless to stop us. The Liberal Artists will never yield in our quest for world domination! We control the media, we control the academe, soon we will control your mind!
Guernica!
Hitler, Art & Naziism
Re: Crowley -- Gandalf
| Posted by The Librarian , Jul 31,2001,18:59 | MetroBlab |
The documentary you mention is "The Architecture of Doom," and it's great. Here's an excerpt from the Amazon review:
ARCHITECTURE OF DOOM opens with an overhead pan of the peaceful autumn forests over
Linz, Austria, boyhood home of artist, designer and draftsman Adolf Hitler. The film shares with
the viewer in pictures, music and words the early influences on that mind: in fact, Richard
Wagner's music and writings are shown to have had the most profound effects on Hitler's
development of the Nazi culture and its ethos. It is in Linz that the design for a new Germany with
its Master Race evolved in the head of its designer. The narrator points out, virtually all leaders of
Nazi Germany were failed artists, poets and writers. They organized the Nazi movement and
promoted its central aesthetics for both the parade ground and museums. Then they recruited the
entire German medical profession to aid them in perfecting the Aryan Race by weeding out for
destruction those characterized as inferior.
Newly presented in ARCHITECTURE OF DOOM are the most complete collections of original
drawings and paintings by Hitler, and documentary footage of his opening Nazi art shows where
often he purchased most of the works. Hitler's 3 hour tour of the art museums of German
occupied Paris is most interesting.
Hitler, Art & Naziism
Re: Hitler, Art & Naziism -- The Librarian
| Posted by the endangered coconut monkey , Jul 31,2001,23:39 | MetroBlab |
>perfecting the Aryan Race by weeding out for
>destruction those characterized as inferior.
Sounds alot like bad corporate structure or..um..Scripps.
Hitler, Art & Naziism
Re: Hitler, Art & Naziism -- the endangered coconut monkey
| Posted by If I leave here tomorrow ® , Aug 01,2001,18:53 | MetroBlab |
Sounds alot like bad corporate structure or..um..Scripps.
...um, or both.
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Re: Crowley -- J. Lieber
| Posted by The Observer , Jul 31,2001,15:23 | MetroBlab |
Yeah, Crowley was a member for a while, too, until he was kicked out for being an asshole.
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Re: Crowley -- The Observer
| Posted by plum ® , Jul 31,2001,11:56 | MetroBlab |
do what thou wilst, shall be the whole of the law. - A. crowley
magical?? yeah he was, look at all the shit that happened to jimmy page after he bought AC's old house. i never actually cared for his writings though. leaned more toward HP lovecraft.