Wesley Clark, genius. (He's into history; too bad it's not American history.)


Posted by run n gun ® , Sep 26,2003,23:29   MetroBlab

Wesley Clark, genius


I keep hearing how smart Gen. Wesley Clark is.

I hear he's a Rhodes scholar.

I hear he can read a novel in 20 minutes.

I hear he graduated first in his class at West Point.

I hear he's a genius.

But I keep hearing him say the dumbest things.

Here's one example. On June 15, he was interviewed by Tim Russert on NBC's "Meet the Press." Asked about President Bush's tax cuts, here's what he said:


Well, first of all, they were not efficient in terms of stimulating the kind of demand we need to move the economy back into a recovery mode, a strong recovery and a recovery that provides jobs. There are more effective ways of using the resources. Secondly, the tax cuts weren't fair. I mean, the people that need the money and deserve the money are the people who are paying less, not the people who are paying more.

I thought this country was founded on a principle of progressive taxation. In other words, it's not only that the more you make, the more you give, but proportionately more because when you don't have very much money, you need to spend it on the necessities of life. When you have more money, you have room for the luxuries and you should � one of the luxuries and one of the privileges we enjoy is living in this great country.


I want you to take note particularly of this sentence: "I thought this country was founded on the principle of progressive taxation."

He did?

Where on earth did he ever get that notion?

Is that what they teach in Arkansas?

Is that what they teach at West Point?

Is that what they teach at Oxford?

Quite the contrary. Here's what the U.S. Constitution says in Article 1, Section 9: "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken."

Now I know that may be difficult for a Rhodes scholar to decipher, so let me help.

At the time of the founding, the idea of a "progressive" income tax was unthinkable. The only taxes on individuals Congress was allowed to assess had to be based on population rather than wealth or earnings. The idea of imposing "progressive" tax rates on incomes, with richer people paying higher rates, was strictly prohibited by the Constitution.

It took the ratification of the 16th Amendment in the 20th century to clear the way for income taxes of varying rates. And, I might add, there is still some question 90 years later whether that ratification was valid � whether it ever really, in fact, took place.

Taken by itself, this gaffe � which suggests a total ignorance of our nation's founding principles and traditions � could be chalked up to poor planning, verbal miscue, momentary mental confusion.

But it's worth pointing out he made no effort later to retract the statement � perhaps because he was not challenged to do so by the illustrious Mr. Russert or anyone else.

More importantly, this is just one of a series of similar errors. So much so that he's become the source of some pretty potent late-night humor. Here's what Jay Leno had to say more recently:

And Gen. Wesley Clark announced he is a Democratic candidate for president. And apparently, Bill Clinton is advising Clark. Yeah. Although Clark already has been called into question for changing his story three times about a claim he made on "Meet the Press." On "Meet the Press," he said the White House called him right after 9-11 and pressured him to connect Saddam Hussein with 9-11, but he's changed his story three different times. So, I guess, Clinton really is advising him.
By the way, general, there was a country founded on the principle of "progressive taxation." It was called the Soviet Union.

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run n gun cuts n pastes the same lies as before!

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Wesley Clark, genius. (He's into history; too bad it's not American history.) -- run n gun
Posted by Portnoy ® , Sep 27,2003,12:29   MetroBlab

Seems you think that if you repeatedly cut n paste the same nonsensical arguments it will make them true. I can assure you it won't.

While no one, including General Clark, is asserting that 'progressive taxation' was any more universally accepted an idea when our country was founded than it is now, it was certainly in the mix of ideas discussed by the country's founders. Your neo-conservative henchmen for the Karl Rove Factory of Lies try to suggest that General Clark is wrong for believing that progressive taxation was proposed by our country's founders. But then, see, when you look at the truth, you realize it was proposed.

I've shared this with you before, and I'll do it again: in Federalist Number 36, written by Alexander Hamilton (one of our country's founders, remember?) taxing the rich for their luxuries, and protecting the poor from oppressive taxation is advocated. This, by any consideration, is the heart of the concept of progressive taxation. Here it is (again) in Hamilton's words:

The government "...must naturally tend to make it a fixed point of policy in the national administration to go as far as may be practicable in making the luxury of the rich tributary to the public treasury, in order to diminish the necessity of those impositions which might create dissatisfaction in the poorer and most numerous classes of the society. Happy it is when the interest which the government has in the preservation of its own power, coincides with a proper distribution of the public burdens, and tends to guard the least wealthy part of the community from oppression!"

Here's a link to the Federalist Papers at the Library of Congress, demonstrating that when you have the truth on your side, you needn't quote from fly-by-night neo-conservative propaganda sources.

I realize you guys are terrified of facing Wes Clark in the general election. I have no problem with political debate and discussion, but you've got to quit ruining any shred of remaining credibility for Bush by defending him with fabrications, distortions and lies.

--modified at Sat, Sep 27, 2003, 12:32:11


run n gun cuts n pastes the same lies as before!

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run n gun cuts n pastes the same lies as before! -- Portnoy
Posted by fluffy ® , Sep 27,2003,17:37   MetroBlab

as ive said before, the neocon plan is to try and discredit CLark so that dean gets the nomination, therefore ensuring that W gets re-elected. just ignore them. its not hard. they just repeat themselves like a parrot.

Wesley Clark, genius. (He's into history; too bad it's not American history.)

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Wesley Clark, genius. (He's into history; too bad it's not American history.) -- run n gun
Posted by runn and gunn ® , Sep 27,2003,00:27   MetroBlab

You can't even write one word by yourself. How bright are YOU?