Clark's tall tales make him the Ross Perot of the Democratic Party? (hee-hee)


Posted by run n gun ® , Sep 23,2003,13:31   MetroBlab

Clark Never Called Karl

Wesley Clark says he would have been a Republican if Karl Rove had returned his phone calls. White House phone logs suggest otherwise.


Matthew Continetti, editorial assistant

WHEN WILL Wesley Clark stop telling tall tales? In the current issue of Newsweek, Howard Fineman reports Clark told Colorado Gov. Bill Owens and University of Denver president Mark Holtzman that "I would have been a Republican if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls."

Unfortunately for Clark, the White House has logged every incoming phone call since the beginning of the Bush administration in January 2001. At the request of THE DAILY STANDARD, White House staffers went through the logs to check whether Clark had ever called White House political adviser Karl Rove. The general hadn't. What's more, Rove says he doesn't remember ever talking to Clark, either.

This isn't the general's first whopper. Last June, the latest Democratic candidate for president implied that he "got a call" on 9/11 from "people around the White House" asking the general to publicly link Saddam Hussein to the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Last August, Clark told a Phoenix radio station that "The White House actually back in February apparently tried to get me knocked off CNN and they wanted to do this because they were afraid that I would raise issues with their conduct of the war."

Like his other two statements, Clark's latest tale bears little resemblance to reality. While it turns out Clark did receive a call "on either Sept. 12 or Sept. 13," the call wasn't from the White House. It was from Israeli-Canadian Middle East expert Thomas Hecht, who told the Toronto Star that he called to invite Clark to give a speech in Canada. As for Clark's accusation that the White House tried to have him fired from CNN--well, the general admits he has no proof. "I've only heard rumors about it," he said.

Skeptics of Clark's candidacy argue that the general's political inexperience makes him an unknown in the primary race. Was Clark's latest slip simply proof of his political naivete? Did he not recognize that his words would be taken seriously? And what does it say about Clark that he would have declared himself a Republican if only he had a chance to chat with Karl Rove? Clark may yet make a serious contender for the Democratic nomination. But if he keeps spinning yarns, he'll end up as the H. Ross Perot of the Democratic party.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/archives/week_2003_01_19.PHP


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run n gun cut n pasting more lies

Re:
Clark's tall tales make him the Ross Perot of the Democratic Party? (hee-hee) -- run n gun
Posted by Portnoy ® , Sep 23,2003,16:16   MetroBlab

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

All you have to do is read the Newsweek article to see run n gun's lies coming out of "rightwingnews.com". They assert that Clark is lying about calling Rove, and that a check of White House phone logs shows no such call was ever made by Clark.

Now, go read the Newsweek article.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/969659.asp?0cv=KA01

Look in the first two paragraphs. It says,


"After Al Qaeda attacked America, retired Gen. Wes Clark thought the Bush administration would invite him to join its team. After all, he�d been NATO commander, he knew how to build military coalitions and the investment firm he now worked for had strong Bush ties. But when GOP friends inquired, they were told: forget it.

"WORD WAS THAT Karl Rove, the president�s political mastermind, had blocked the idea. Clark was furious. Last January, at a conference in Switzerland, he happened to chat with two prominent Republicans, Colorado Gov. Bill Owens and Marc Holtzman, now president of the University of Denver. 'I would have been a Republican,' Clark told them, 'if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls.' "

As you see, Clark's inquiry was through Republican friends who contacted the White House. Clark is not suggesting he called Rove directly. The Newsweek article doesn't say Clark called Rove directly.

So it's not Clark who's lying. It's run n gun and rightwingnews.com who are lying.

I'm admonishing you all. Check the facts and sources and counter the circle of lies coming out of the right wing Republicans and the White House. Our very freedoms may depend on it!


run n gun cut n pasting more lies

Re:
run n gun cut n pasting more lies -- Portnoy
Posted by fluffy ® , Sep 24,2003,07:11   MetroBlab

"So it's not Clark who's lying. It's run n gun and rightwingnews.com who are lying.

I'm admonishing you all. Check the facts and sources and counter the circle of lies coming out of the right wing Republicans and the White House. Our very freedoms may depend on it!"

dont worry, no one here takes people like RnG seriously anyway. he's jsut being the good little sheep that W wants him to be.



run n gun cut n pasting more lies

Re:
run n gun cut n pasting more lies -- fluffy
Posted by Portnoy ® , Sep 24,2003,09:30   MetroBlab

Well, of course I'm not so worried about run n gun himself. It's more what he represents/mimics/repeats. None of the ideas he posts here are original. He gets them from elsewhere. It's the fact that others are spreading the lies he's repeating that concerns me. I hear the same crap if I turn on Rush Limbaugh, you know? So I'm just saying when you hear people around the water cooler repeating this pablum, it's good to have the facts to correct the record. Tends to slow down the spread of those lies.

notice the source?

Re:
Clark's tall tales make him the Ross Perot of the Democratic Party? (hee-hee) -- run n gun
Posted by fluffy ® , Sep 23,2003,13:36   MetroBlab

nuff said.

notice the source?

Re:
notice the source? -- fluffy
Posted by hi top ® , Sep 23,2003,13:48   MetroBlab

Yeah about as reliable as Weekly World NEws Report- I wonder what the old Bat Boy is up to these days. I guess I shouldn't bash the WWNR by comparing it to a right wing rag, though.

notice the source?

Re:
notice the source? -- hi top
Posted by Michael ® , Sep 23,2003,14:16   MetroBlab

I wonder what the old Bat Boy is up to these days.

Well, according to SouthKnox Bubba: