when our soldiers are saying things...


Posted by jfm ® , Sep 21,2003,17:11   MetroBlab

...like this...

From my perspective, however, we're already losing them. The real impact of the Army's policy on Reserve deployments won't be felt until long after his watch. But because everything bad that happens is the commander's fault, Mr. Rumsfeld's tenure may be remembered less for its battlefield victories than for the damage it caused to the morale of the Army.

...it's time to fucking pay a little attention.


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when our soldiers are saying things...

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when our soldiers are saying things... -- jfm
Posted by Greta F. Rich ® , Sep 23,2003,13:50   MetroBlab

Our soldiers, by in large, understand the reasons they are in Iraq and other places. 9/11 - and the desire to keep those factions so busy running for their lives that they don't have time to attack us on our soil again. They were enboldened to think we didn't have the guts to fight them on their soil, that a little bit of blood and a couple of body bags would cause us to run like scared rabbits.

The thing is, our soldiers understand this will be a slow process, that it could take years. I spoke with a returning soldier last Sunday morning, my husband and I met him at the McDonalds in our area. I shook his hand and told him we appreciated the sacrifices and service they were doing to keep us safe.

He was really nice, and as we spoke he said that the stay in Iraq was probably going to be 'years'. My husband said that the Iraqi's didn't even have a word for 'democracy', that is was a foriegn concept that they had never experienced. The soldier agreed, and said that the young people will be the ones who achieve democracy, that the older generation would not. He said they would have to be educated in every aspect of democrary and learn to love it before we would be able to leave.

For those democrats who keep looking at their watch and asking when this will be over, they need to rethink their position. The longer we keep the terrorists and the olagarchy that feeds their hate at bay and away from our land the safer we'll be.

Hate runs deep in about 20% of the muslim hearts; it's the young people and the 80% who will have to help us secure liberty for their nation.


when our soldiers are saying things...

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when our soldiers are saying things... -- Greta F. Rich
Posted by fluffy ® , Sep 24,2003,07:31   MetroBlab

"Hate runs deep in about 20% of the muslim hearts"

uh, and from where did you get that number? do a survey or something? also, i wonder what percentage of hate runs in christian hearts as well?..


By and large???

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when our soldiers are saying things... -- Greta F. Rich
Posted by lilamy ® , Sep 23,2003,20:12   MetroBlab

I am amazed at the amount of information you gleaned from one returning soldier. I *must* applaud your interviewing skills. GWB has admitted that there were no ties to 9-11 and Iraq.
How is what we are doing in Iraq keeping us safe? Are our borders more tightly controlled? Can someone put themselves in a box on an aircraft and be shipped across the country? Are we not losing American lives on an almost daily basis to the terrorists in Iraq?


Just my two cents.

Be well,
lilamy


when our soldiers are saying things...

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when our soldiers are saying things... -- jfm
Posted by Jhaque Schidt ® , Sep 22,2003,00:23   MetroBlab

To delight in war is a merit in the soldier, a dangerous quality in the captain, and a positive crime in the statesman.

-George Santayana


when our soldiers are saying things...

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when our soldiers are saying things... -- jfm
Posted by Portnoy ® , Sep 21,2003,23:07   MetroBlab

It appears the current administration may have believed their own hype that Americans would be welcomed with open arms in Iraq. Now that we find this not to be the case, it also appears that the administration failed to have a "Plan B" on the books.

As always, it's the boots on the ground that suffer when the egos of their leaders run afoul of reality.

Despite all their rhetoric about their critics, it would seem that those in the Bush Administration are the ones guilty of failing to support our troops.


when our soldiers are saying things...

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when our soldiers are saying things... -- Portnoy
Posted by fluffy ® , Sep 22,2003,07:12   MetroBlab

"always, it's the boots on the ground that suffer when the egos of their leaders run afoul of reality.

Despite all their rhetoric about their critics, it would seem that those in the Bush Administration are the ones guilty of failing to support our troops."

this seems especially true, since they dont seem to be trying to bring in the UN with the same zest that they shut them out prior to the war. i truly think a lot of the problems could be helped if the UN was allowed to lead this thing, but alas certain megalomaniacs would rather let our boys die daily under a US flag then to mutter a "we're sorry" to france, germany, etc., as well as the UN. good to know our military are dying for W's pride.