Gulf War Illness


Posted by Skater ® , Sep 20,2003,22:01   MetroBlab

Anyone know anybody suffering from this?

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Gulf War Illness -- Skater
Posted by lilamy ® , Sep 22,2003,23:51   MetroBlab

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Living/ap20030922_1541.html

is an article just out today saying that the VA will care for those who served in GW I who come down with Lou Gehrig's disease.


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Gulf War Illness -- lilamy
Posted by Skater ® , Sep 23,2003,14:13   MetroBlab

Thanks for the post. Just finished 1 hr. trying to keep my friend from talking suicide.

Neurologist #2 poked and prodded him with electrical needles this morning, muttering, "bee stang, bee stang, bee stang," then spent 15 minutes writing up a little death warrant.

"Amyotropic Lateral Scelerosis cannot be ruled out witb this patient. His nerves show extensive innervation and renervation."

Response from Neurologist #2: "I'm very sorry I have to give you this news."

Then Neuro #2 went back to singing some Sonicflood. I got to pick up the pieces of my friend's emotional cage.


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Gulf War Illness -- Skater
Posted by hard69rock ® , Sep 22,2003,01:30   MetroBlab

Just the guys that took the pre-tabs. Was happy to find I only had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

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Posted by Skater ® , Sep 22,2003,19:33   MetroBlab

A good friend of mine just got the word he may have Lou Gehrig's Disease; he was off Tap Line Road in March 1991 when the ammo dumps got blasted and the clouds blew south.

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Gulf War Illness -- Skater
Posted by lilamy ® , Sep 22,2003,23:47   MetroBlab

Tell him to call the VA hospital nearest him. There are ongoing studies and there is some hope that he can get care through the VA system. I hope he doesn't have that disease.

Be well,
lilamy


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Posted by Skater ® , Sep 23,2003,07:24   MetroBlab

If he has ALS, that means he's dead in 2 years?

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Gulf War Illness -- Skater
Posted by lilamy ® , Sep 23,2003,19:15   MetroBlab

Skater,
it is always a horrible thing when someone is diagnosed with what is today an incurable condition. And yes - usually patients are dead within 2 years of diagnosis of ALS. There are exceptions.
I will tell you something a woman who has two special needs children - both of whom will probably die before their 25th birthday. She said - "I know God gave me these kids because He knew I could handle it."
I happen to believe in God, many don't and I am not preaching or trying to convert anyone, but I hope your friend finds some comfort somewhere.
I diagnosed a patient with a brain tumor one time. When they operated on him it was the worst possible type of cancer. He lived about 5 more years. He was at least able to put his affairs in order and set thing right with people who were impoertant to him. Another patient I found a brain tumor in had only a few months of life after we diagnosed him but again, he had time to set things straight and make sure the people who were important to him knew it.
I hope his physicians find they are mistaken. Though his doctor said he can't say it is NOT ALS, he didn't say it is. The first link below is to a site where you can see some online info on ALS. The second one is an article from Medscape where I do a lot of research and reading to keep up to date on things. All I can do is say that I will say a prayer for your friend. I hope the links are helpful to you. God be with you - and your friend.

Be well,
lilamy

https://secure.alsa.org/serving/litorder.cfm




MEDLINE Abstracts: Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/452552

from Topics in Advanced Practice Nursing eJournal
Posted 05/07/2003


What is the latest research on amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS)? Find out in this easy-to-navigate collection of recent MEDLINE abstracts compiled by the editors at Medscape Nursing.


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Prognosis in Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis: A Population-Based Study
del Aguila MA, Longstreth WT Jr, McGuire V, Koepsell TD, van Belle G
Neurology. 2003;60:813-819

Background: Accurate information on prognosis of ALS is useful to patients, families, and clinicians.
Methods: In a population-based study of ALS in western Washington, the authors assembled a cohort of 180 patients with incident ALS between 1990 and 1994. Information on potential prognostic factors was collected during an in-person interview. Patients also completed the Medical Outcomes Study Short Form 36 (SF-36). Vital status through December 1999 was known for all patients.
Results: Median survival was 32 months from onset of symptoms and 19 months from diagnosis. The 5-year survival after diagnosis was 7%. Older age and female sex were strongly associated with poor survival. In multivariable Cox proportional hazards regression models, factors significantly and independently associated with a worse prognosis included older age, any bulbar features at onset, shorter time from symptom onset to diagnosis, lack of a marital partner, and residence in King County. Recursive partitioning identified age, time from symptom onset to diagnosis, and marital status as the strongest predictors of survival. Good summary scores for physical health on the SF-36, but not for mental health, were significantly associated with longer survival than poor scores.
Conclusion: These findings are consistent with other population-based studies of ALS and confirm its pernicious nature. Older age, female sex, any bulbar features at onset, short time from symptom onset to diagnosis, lack of a marital partner, and disease severity are key prognostic factors. Serial measurement of severity would likely improve predictions.




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Gulf War Illness -- lilamy
Posted by Skater ® , Sep 23,2003,21:14   MetroBlab

Is Durham, NC, VA hospital a better site for this type of illness than Nashville VA?

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Posted by hard69rock ® , Sep 24,2003,02:55   MetroBlab

I would think that if the VA couldn't help, then the proximity to Duke medical would be good. I'd vote Durham.

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Gulf War Illness -- Skater
Posted by lilamy ® , Sep 23,2003,23:51   MetroBlab

Skater,
right now I couldn't tell you ! I'm sorry. But I will try to research it and let you know. Look for a post within the next couple of days nearer the top of the board since this will probably rotate off in the next day or so.

Be well,
lilamy


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Gulf War Illness -- Skater
Posted by hard69rock ® , Sep 22,2003,23:41   MetroBlab

It's a good thing that fluffy KNOWS BEYOND ALL DOUBT that there are/were no chemicals used by Saddam.
I truly hope the best for your friend.


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Gulf War Illness -- hard69rock
Posted by fluffy ® , Sep 23,2003,07:49   MetroBlab

uh, skater said in 91'. i never said anything about the first gulf war and WMD's. dumbass. also, if you could be so kind as to find a post where i said i KNOW BEYOND A DOUBT that there are no chem weapons, id love to read it. otherwise, you are making shit up, and im sure you dont want to be accused of that...

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Gulf War Illness -- fluffy
Posted by hard69rock ® , Sep 24,2003,02:49   MetroBlab

Hey, you were the one saying that the WMD's weren't there. As I recall, it was in the post about the buried MIG. At least, that's how it came off.

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Gulf War Illness -- fluffy
Posted by Skater ® , Sep 23,2003,15:22   MetroBlab

$87 billion for H20 lines and water towers, but not one pence for my friend with ALS; DOD said he had to show symptoms within 2 yrs of discharge.