i think you are missing the point here. war on terror taking too long? i havent heard that from anyone. consdiering most nations have been dealing with terrorism for decades, i dare anyone to say that. the WAR is taking too long, especially for one that was declared over months ago.

homeland security? as ive said before, its not what it IS, its what it might BECOME. how long before someone is picked up for simply checking out a Koran from the local library or logging onto a islamic website? how long before protestors are considered "terrorists" by the patriot act? weve seen shades of this since 9/11, instances of people rounded up for simply "looking" middle eastern. its always so easy to support this kind of activity when it doesnt effect you. how comforting it must be.

BUSH is in charge.

CLINTON no longer is.

you will notice i dont really say a lot of glowing thing about clinton on here, as some others here do. but hes gone. im dealing with the present, not the past. catch up. you neocons are sadly predictable.

Here are a few things I myself have learned, using my much more limited noodlepower:

* American aren't the only free people in the world.

* America didn't invent freedom.

I vote. But you're wrong. There's no obligation to vote. And our right to complain is fundamentally protected by the Constitution.

as long as the neocons use clinton for every complaint from stained dresses to solar flares, i dont see why talking about the election being decided by the supreme court is invalid. not that clinton is blameless(BUAH-HA-HA!!), but the continued mentality that W is perfect and that he has no faults is hilarious. time after time, evidence has been presented about this administration, and yet not one prominent repub has stood up to say "im a proud republican, but W is wrong on ______". party solidarity is one thing, but this lack of criticism from within to the point of burying one's head in the sand is pathetic. to subscribe to one's party and not being able to criticize it is a little fascist, dont you think? and also, can you imagine the outcry from the repubs is the supreme court had sided with Gore? the way they still complain about CLinton, wed be hearing about the "Gore Election Travesty" for the next 50 years! oh, and in miami dade only 1/5 of the votes were counted before they called it quits. of course this entire discussion would never be taking place if we had viable voting equpiment. lets hope california sets a precident for the rest of the nation in 04.